You may have heard of ITIN many times before, but if you have no idea what exactly it does and how to get ITIN, you can benefit from the comprehensive Obtaining an ITIN Number .
What is ITIN?
ITIN is an abbreviation for Individual Taxpayer Identification Number and is a number used as an individual tax identification number in the United States. We can call it a 9-digit number provided by the IRS to people who want to become individual taxpayers in the USA.
What is ITIN used for?
The IRS issues ITINs to help individuals comply with U.S. tax laws if they do not have an SSN (social security number). This number is provided so that foreigners can pay their taxes individually, regardless of the individual's immigration status, whether they reside in the United States or not.
Foreign individuals may have to file with the IRS for tax purposes due to any situation, and this is where an ITIN is needed.
The ITIN number serves no purpose other than federal taxation. ITIN number is often confused with EIN number, but EIN and ITIN are different from each other.
The following cannot be done with ITIN Number
- Obtaining authorization to work in the USA
- Gaining residence rights in the USA
- Getting Social Security benefits
- Qualifying for income tax credits
ITIN cannot be used for the above items, and having an ITIN number does not mean that you will benefit from these rights.
Why is ITIN Necessary?
If your company in the US has to pay federal taxes or if you need to file a federal return (through an accounting company), an ITIN is required.
Accordingly, if one of the following descriptions describes you, it means that an ITIN is required.
- An alien who is required to file a tax return in the United States but is not a resident of the United States
- An alien who has resided in the United States for a specified period of time and will file a tax return.
- Dependents (relatives) of a U.S. citizen
- Dependent or spouse of a non-U.S. visa holder
- Foreign students, professors or researchers who need to declare taxes
- If you own an llc in the USA and are going to file a tax return at the end of the year
- If you plan to open a Paypal account and use it without any problems
- If you plan to open an account for your company in different banks
- If you plan to apply for a loan for your company from financial institutions,
for foreigners and foreign company owners (including LLC, Corp) doing business in the USA and dealing with E-commerce to open a Business Paypal Account .
There is no need for an ITIN to open a Stripe account. EIN is required when opening a Stripe account and you can open your Stripe account by entering your Turkish citizenship number.
Does ITIN need to be renewed?
If you have not made any tax declaration on your ITIN number for 3 tax seasons, your ITIN number becomes dormant and must be renewed.
Using an expired ITIN on a U.S. tax return will count as timely filing, but there will be no refund. This may cause you legal troubles in the future.
How to Get ITIN Number?
When you need to make a tax declaration for ITIN, you can apply at any time with or without a declaration form. So there is no specific time or season.
When you need an ITIN number, you can fill out the W-7 form and mail it to the IRS along with a real passport document and foreign status document (obtainable from the Consulate).
Applications you make directly without proving your foreignness will be rejected. It is very difficult to obtain this document, as US consulates give appointments at the earliest in 5-6 months (confirmed as of October 2022).
To obtain an ITIN, you must submit a copy of your unexpired passport to the IRS to prove that your identity is truly yours. (If you apply through an authorized admission agency, you do not need to send the original passport)
It was previously accepted when you filled out the W-7 form and sent a notarized copy of the passport to the IRS, but it is no longer accepted.
In addition, you must attach the document stating that you are a foreigner, which you will receive from the consulate, to the same mail envelope and fill out the W7 form correctly.
However, since all recent individual applications have been rejected, it is essential to use an authorized agency to obtain ITIN.
How to Apply?
There are 3 application options to obtain an ITIN from the IRS. Let's evaluate these options one by one.
ITIN Application Option 1 (Many applications were rejected without justification)
A completed W-7 form, the truth of an unexpired passport, proof of alien status that you can obtain from the consulate. You can mail all of these to the address below.
Internal Revenue Service
Austin Service Center
ITIN Operation
PO Box 149342
Austin, TX 78714-9342
You need to send all documents to this mailing address (express mail supported).
All original documents, including the passport, you sent during your application will be returned to you within 60 days. The IRS advises that once your ITIN application is processed, the documents will be returned to the address on the W-7 form. It is said that there is no need for an extra return envelope during shipping. If the documents do not arrive within 60 days, you can inquire by phone to the ITIN operations center within the IRS.
ITIN Application Option 2
The option above is free and costs only a postage fee that you can implement yourself. Many of our followers tried to get ITIN with this first method, but according to the information received, all of them were rejected without justification.
However, there are also organizations authorized by the IRS to provide this ITIN.
If you do not want to handle this process yourself, you can use a paid intermediary company. The advantage is that it is faster and there is no responsibility of mailing the actual passport to the USA.
ITIN assignment, which is a 12-week process, is achieved by authorized agents by patiently waiting.
order an ITIN Number from us to apply for an ITIN with an authorized agent of the IRS .
ITIN Application Option 3
You can also obtain the ITIN in person while you are visiting the USA by making an appointment with the IRS. In this way, there will be no need to submit a foreign status document and passport. The IRS will send the application received this way to the mailing address you specified when the ITIN is finalized.
How to Fill Out Form W-7 for ITIN
The IRS has extensive documentation for filling out the form. the final version of Form W-7 in PDF format . (Although it is updated from time to time, you can check the version on this page
comprehensive documentation on how to fill out the form from this link .
When Will ITIN Arrive?
Under normal circumstances, if the documents are correct and all requirements are completed, applications made through the authorized agent are completed within an average of 12 weeks.
Is There a Support Number I Can Reach?
You can call the IRS at 800-829-1040 if you are in the United States or 267-941-1000 (a toll line) if you are outside the United States.
If you are going to open a Paypal account, you need an ITIN for long-term use. Since ITIN is a 12-week process, you need to apply as soon as possible. In addition to the ITIN number, Paypal requires a virtual computer with a US-located IP address.
Can You Get ITIN Service from Us?
Our ITIN service has started. We can obtain your ITIN number without bothering you with complex forms and procedures.
As with our other services, we tried to create a very economical plan in our ITIN service. Our team, where you can speak the same language and have no problems with support, will serve you during the ITIN process.
If you are an LLC company owner, have received your EIN number (along with the Approval letter) and have a current passport, your application online .
Why is ITIN needed?
- If you are going to pay your annual tax in the USA
- If you want to use your Pasypal business account without any problems,
- If you want to have a smooth account activation on Amazon, Walmart, Etsy, Ebay and all similar platforms,
- If you want to open an account with alternative US banks
- If you plan to open an account with US financial institutions and stock trading platforms
- If you want to increase your company's credit score in the future
- If you have plans to obtain a visa (ITIN keeps a record of your business history)
ITIN makes your job much easier.
You can visit our ITIN page for application requirements and price information
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Hello
There is some information that needs to be clarified regarding the ITIN issue. Both EIN and ITIN are tax numbers issued by the tax office. Even the digits are the same. One is for foreign individuals and one is for all domestic and foreign companies. Both of them serve the same purpose: filing a tax return. However, I understood that there was a confusion in the information published here, as if ITIN was required in all cases, I would like this to be clarified. The information I learned is as follows:
If you are not a US citizen and earn income in the US, remotely or as an "individual" while you are there, you have to declare income tax. If you want to declare this income to the US, you have to get an ITIN, that's for sure. For example, if you provide remote software services or do e-commerce as an "individual" (not as an llc), many platforms ask you for an ITIN. Because the IRS wants them to. For example, as a foreigner physically working in the USA, you have to get an ITIN, otherwise they will not hire you because they cannot pay you an official salary. This is also the case in Turkey. Individuals' tax number is also their TR ID number. Foreigners in Turkey also receive a similar number from the tax office when they obtain a work permit. The system is the same.
However, if you are a foreigner and have a single-partner LLC company without being a US citizen, you will declare your taxes with the company's tax number EIN, not with the ITIN number. Single partner LLCs are already accepted by the IRS as sole proprietorships in Turkey. Therefore, your sole proprietorship's income and expenses are accounted for and your tax on profits is declared and paid with your EIN number. What you receive after tax is the tax-paid dividend. On top of this or separately, an ITIN is not required.
In summary, ITIN is required for individual earnings. So, if you provide a remote service or work physically in the USA, you must obtain an ITIN to pay your income tax to the USA. If a single-partner LLC is an llc and your income is only through this company, that is, you do not have other income situations, EIN is sufficient. However, if you are doing business in the USA as an individual as well as an llc, then you must also obtain an ITIN. For example, if you have an LLC company, you earn income from it, and on the other hand, you buy and sell real estate individually, independently of the company, or you want to buy and sell shares, then you also need an ITIN so that you can file a tax return outside the company. It will happen.
This is what I know. Please confirm. Thank you.
Ein is the company's federal tax identification number.
Itin is the individual tax identification number. It is needed by people who are not US citizens and need to file taxes. Tax declaration cannot be made with EIN. EIN is required only when declaring form 5472-1120. It is not required for job. Itin number is required for LLC companies and all other tax declaration processes.
Hello Mr. Nazmi, LLC companies declare taxes with EIN. Why is ITIN necessary? I explained the situations above, and you answered as if ITIN was required for LLC companies in all cases. However, I know that this is not the case. Could you please explain more clearly why ITIN is necessary based on the situations I explained above.
Hello,
where did you get the information about companies that choose to be taxed as LLCs filing taxes with EIN? If you forward an IRS source for this, we can read it together and evaluate the issue.
According to sources, unless LLCs specifically choose to be declared as an llc and notify the IRS about this (if an llc is chosen to be declared as an llc, double taxation occurs, both the company owner and the company declare taxes separately, and since this is unreasonable, small foreign businesses do not prefer it). The LLC member(s) pays the income tax. In this scenario, LLC income is processed directly to the LLC owners, and when the company pays the tax, the owner is repaid with the ITIN number if he is a foreigner and the SSN if he is a citizen.
We are not saying this, the IRS is saying this, please read, we are not in a position to create legislation ourselves.
https://www.irs.gov/businesses/small-businesses-self-employed/single-member-limited-liability-companies
Moreover, what ITIN and EIN are are clearly stated in the IRS documents, so there is no need to write the same texts as comments. We are compiling these contents using IRS sources as a reference, you can read them too.
If US source LLC income will not be declared with 1040-NR, it will be declared with form 5472-1120. EIN is sufficient for this, but when declaring with 1040-NR (foreign owned single-member LLC income from ABB) an ITIN number is definitely required.
We hope it helped
Is there a friend of ours who applied for ITIN? Can you help us with how the process went? I wrote a more detailed message, but I think Startupsole did not see my comment as appropriate.
Hello, there is nothing inappropriate in your other comment, we tried to answer your question below.
Since you will be submitting both a tax application and a tax return, it would be beneficial to talk to an accounting expert.
Make an appointment from the link below. Our contracted business partner is a Turkish accounting company in the USA.
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You can ask your questions and get service
Enjoy your work.
Friends, is there an accounting office you can recommend that includes ITIN service for 2022 tax declaration? I couldn't find a clear figure on the internet, and since the comments of experienced friends are very important, I don't want to make the wrong payment, it is quite costly after all. I have some questions, is ITIN mandatory when filing taxes? I kept a record of income and expenses throughout the last year. Since sales were made through Amazon.com, there doesn't seem to be a special situation. Would you still recommend an accounting firm that provides services including ITIN? Or should I file my own declaration but purchase the startupsole service to apply for the ITIN number? ?
There are a lot of costs, especially in the first year of the company's operation. I aim to establish the company before February 2023, but we are not in a position to allocate a budget for ITIN. Would a temporary ITIN be useful for declaration and what could be the fees?
Also, is a 2023 declaration required for an LLC established in 2023?
Thanks
The declaration of an LLC established in 2023 and whose EIN assignment occurs in 2023 must be filed by April 2024. Activities, income and expenses during that year are declared.
Some accounting companies provide temporary authorization, while others may also obtain permanent authorization at the declaration stage.
http://turkotaxacc-1.hubspotpagebuilder.com/startupsole You can discuss the issue with Turkotax and get information about year-end statements.
Mr. Muhammed, I am truly grateful, you personally answered all the questions I asked today. Finally, I have one more question, if you please; Are estimated taxes valid for LLCs? Are single/multi member LLCs included in the IRS' system of dividing the annual tax collection by 4 and collecting it every 3 months?
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You're welcome. What is Estimated LLC? I'm sorry, I didn't fully understand. Are there any other LLCs other than single member and multi member LLCs?
The tax collection system of the IRS is payment estimated taxes. In order to collect the taxes faster, the IRS divides the year into 4 and requests payment in each slice. It is not an LLC type, what I want to ask is this; Are LLCs included in this system or do LLCs only declare and pay taxes once a year?
This is probably valid for businesses that trade with high volumes. For example, businesses with thousands of checkouts and a turnover of 2.3 M USD per year. Since we do not know your situation, it is difficult to comment on whether this type of statement is suitable for you. As I mentioned before, since accounting transactions involve many variations, it is necessary to explain the situation to a business-specific consultant.
However, if you do not have a business with a large annual turnover, you do not need to worry about these types of declarations. At the end of the year, categorize all income and expenses (an accounting software automates this) and submit it to your consultant to make your declaration.
In summary, we are obliged to make a declaration at least once a year. Otherwise, it is evaluated on a case-by-case basis.
Thank you very much, sir, stay healthy, I wish you success.
Hello,
I have read some articles stating that an ITIN number is required when submitting an annual declaration. I think this trick is also useful for the future, even if it is in the early stages. As far as I learned in the forum, the fees are $250-$500 and when I asked the authorized application center in Türkiye, they asked me for $500. Is there a reliable place with more affordable prices, or is there a friend who can send the required documents directly to the IRS Texas address by mail and get an ITIN? Would direct application or intermediary application make more sense? Thanks for the information.
If you tell your advisor when making an annual declaration, they will add another form to the declaration for temporary job assignment during the declaration. Thus, you can inquire about your taxes on the irs website.
Many consultants do this, but if you act early and say that you want to have a permanent ITIN number and that it will benefit your US record in a positive way in the future, it may also make sense.
If you apply directly, you must include the original passport in the envelope and (an important point) you must also receive a letter from the US consulate confirming your foreign status.
If you submit without these, your application will not be successful. It has been tried many times in the past with negative results.
Making an appointment at the consulates is a big problem, as long schedules are usually mentioned, but you can still call and try your luck.
All that is left is to get service through an approved agency. Once they apply directly with a photocopy of their passport, your application will be finalized within 12 weeks.
There are places that offer services around 350 USD, just a little research will be enough. Choose well-formed companies here. The middleman also has intermediaries, sometimes it does not make sense to get service from them. Inquire about the intermediary agency on the Irs website before receiving service.
Can you recommend an intermediary firm that performs all transactions quickly, including company formment, bank account etc. Especially your dog is important to me.
Hello,
If you want, you can contact us on our WhatsApp line +18598008856. Registered agent companies in the USA do not provide ITIN, we can produce different solutions.
The company setup and EIN part is simple. For the ITIN side, we will direct you to a business partner after the company is formed.
But these things do not happen quickly, unfortunately it is all a process. EIN, ITIN process starts in 2-4 weeks, it will take 8-10 weeks. Please be informed.
Hello,
thanks to this site, I established my company in the USA and received my EIN number. Now, I received service for the ITIN Number http://xxxcom/, . Documents they want from me:
– Passport (updated and color scanned – you can find an example in the attachment)
– Tax return form (US Federal Tax Return – Form 1040NR)
– Current US Visa (If Available)
– Company document and EIN document
I don't understand the documents they want here, Form 1040NR. I founded the company in September 2021 and did not make any sales for the USA. I want to get my ITIN number by filing my tax return at the end of December. I wonder if I should fill out Form 1040NR. If you don't mind if I stop you, how can I fill out this forum? Do you have a guide article about this?
Thanks.
Hello, have you asked this issue to your service provider?
I didn't ask anything about the Forum, they just wrote me asking to send me these documents.
1040 NR, tax declaration form for foreigners. Tell them that you do not have a tax declaration yet, the form has not been filled out and that you have just formed the company. They can also get it without that form.
Hello. In another post, you stated that payment is not required for Paypal. I'm confused right now, can you give details or is the post out of date?
The latest article for Paypal is here: https://startupsole.com/paypal-vps/
If you use VPS, ITIN may not be requested until a certain stage, we currently have a lot of followers who use it this way and receive payments.
Is there an age restriction? I am 17 years old and I want to sell independently online.
Hello,
Why do you ask? You made your comment under the topic about Itin number. To form an llc, you must be over 18 years of age because an account needs to be opened on many platforms and an ID is required for these. You will probably run into problems because of the age issue.
If you have the opportunity, complete the process through someone you know who is over the age of 18.
If you're asking for Udemy, I'm not sure. I recommend you write to Udemy support team about this issue. Because they need to confirm your identity first. Since your identity card will show that you are 17 years old, you need to find out if there will be any problems. You can get the best answer by writing to the support team.
You can write here to help. The answer will come in 1-2 days.
Good luck already.
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Hello, how are you, I hope you are well.
I started earning a little income from Udemy and the IRS is deducting income withholding tax from me, so I need to have the dog's number.
I want to apply, but since the tax season has passed, I am not sure if there is anything that needs to be done before applying.
By the way, I will not establish a company for now, but I plan to establish one in the future and I know that a company is not required for the ITIN application.
Apart from the question above, another question comes to my mind: Do I need to pay state tax? I think I won't pay because I don't physically live in America, but I wanted to ask anyway.
Thank you in advance for your answers.
Hello, we are very good, thank you.
You don't have to wait any time or do anything in advance, you can apply whenever you want. Even if you are the owner of the itin, you will not be tied to anything for tax purposes unless you give your itin number to somewhere. By the way, be aware that it takes quite a long time to complete.
I don't think you will pay state taxes, you are not an llc owner anyway, so I recommend consulting a professional for details on other individual taxes. Good luck.
Thank you very much for your answer. I thought that the W-7 form required for itin application was given along with the tax return, I guess I was wrong. I do not currently have a tax liability for 2020, but since I started earning income in July 2021, a few months ago, I have a responsibility this year.
In that case, since I will be paying taxes for 2021 in the new tax period and I do not have the responsibility to pay taxes now, I can only fill out the w-7 form and prove my foreign status and apply with 2 documents, right? Did I understand correctly?
Itin application can be made while declaring taxes and only for the purpose of obtaining itin. There is no need to declare taxes to own one. If you want to use an authorized agency instead of applying yourself, because it takes a long time to complete, a mistake you make will cause loss of time.
There are authorized intermediaries who apply only for the purpose of owning a trust without declaring taxes, prices vary between $250 and $500. I recommend you get quotes from a few places and use an intermediary.
Is the ITIN number a one-time purchase or does it need to be renewed at regular intervals?
The IRS may request renewal at certain intervals (such as 3 years). Sometimes certain numbers may need to be renewed, and sometimes numbers received in certain years. You can follow this in the most reliable way from the irs portal.
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Your ITIN may expire before you file your taxes in 2021. All ITINs that have not been used on a federal tax return at least once in the last three years will expire on December 31, 2020. Additionally, all ITINs issued before 2013 with a middle digit of 88 (Example: (9XX-88-XXXX)) will expire at the end of the year. Those with a middle digit of 90, 91, 92, 94, 95, 96, 97, 98 or 99, Those appointed before 2013 and those who have not yet been appointed have been renewed, and will expire at the end of this year.
Source: https://www.irs.gov/individuals/individual-taxpayer-identification-number
Hello,
I formed an LLC company in Usa on 15.09.2021. I also applied for an EIN number when forming the company, and I am waiting for my number. I'm thinking of starting to sell on Amazon after the new year. Since the company did not make sales in 2021, I will declare its tax return as zero. Will an ITIN number be required for this reason, or is an EIN sufficient since there are no sales?
Thanks
If you do not receive any income because there is no transaction through your company, it will probably be enough for you to just file form 5472 next year. Your accountant will not ask you for this, it will be enough.
Can I register to applications such as Doordash etc. with my ITIN number?
For this, you can look at the FAQ of the platform you will sign up for, the most accurate information will be written there.
Hello
My LLC company has been formed, I have an EIN number, bank accounts have been opened, is the ITIN Number still required when paying taxes at the end of the year?
If you are selling to US residents, you may be taxed if you exceed the limits. At this stage, your accountant may ask you for an ITIN when paying federal taxes. There is no need for it now, but it would be useful to get an ITIN depending on the work you do in the future.
Hello
I only sell to Canada, I do not have any sales within the USA at the moment, I only buy products from the USA. In this case, it's not something that's urgent right now, then.
Yes, it may not be necessary in the short term, but after the tax calculation is made, the individual can easily declare that tax since the LLC is taxed individually. At that stage, your accountant may request it, but if the individual does not have it, companies apply for it when declaring taxes. For a fee, of course.
Can we start selling with just the EIN number without the ITIN number? Is it really necessary to form an llc? I am in the process of forming an llc at Inc Authority. They provide ITIN service, but I guess they do not provide ITIN. Doesn't this mean that it is not mandatory?
You can start selling only with eIN, there is no need for itin service at the moment, incauthority or other agencies do not provide itin.
Is it necessary to get an itin number for the company? Shouldn't we just get the ein? Because I am in the process of forming an llc at Inc Authority, they do not provide a service called itin number, but they do provide ein, in this case, I wonder if it is not necessary?
You must obtain an EIN for the company to be active. Itin is required when opening a paypal account and paying taxes individually. You do not need to get a certificate at this stage, EIN is sufficient. Inauthority does not provide it, and there is no need for it right now.
By the way, you can also form an llc with Incfile instead of Incauthority. Incfile provides very fast and high-quality service, and when forming an llc, you can pay an extra fee and request that they get your EIN number during the ordering process.
Well, let's say we started selling on Amazon, we gave the EIN number and we will pay taxes, then do I need a check, that is, can I pay taxes without a check? Is it a problem if I don't pay taxes even if it is in a few months or in the first months even though I gave my EIN number to Amazon? If I do not exceed the amount that must be earned to pay the annual tax in Usa? By the way, thank you very much for your answers.
Your accountant may ask for your itin number when declaring your taxes, but the tax period is generally at the end of the year and the declaration is made at the end of the year. You do not pay taxes the next day as soon as you form the company, so you do not need to push immediately. After you form the company and get a partner, you start your activities while you also apply for a job. Until then, you still have time to get it.
So how do we pass the verification with invoice when we open a paypal account? Is an invoice received through godaddy valid?
Verification with invoice is not possible with domain name. You need an invoice such as electricity or natural gas. You can check the requirements in the Paypal documents registered to the company address.
I will come to Usa as a tourist. Can I get an ITIN or EIN without forming an llc for my banking business? Thank you in advance for your reply
You do not need to form an llc to receive Itin, it is an individually assigned number.
Hello, first of all, thank you for the information you provided. I went to America and worked with the Work and Travel program in 2009. I checked my SSN number, which was given to me in those years, https://www.ssn-verify.com/ After 8 months of the program, my SSN number was sufficient for taxback. Do I need to get an ITIN when I have an SSN or is an SSN sufficient?
Hello,
As long as your SSN is valid, you do not need to get a permit.
In fact, if you are planning to form an Usan company while your SSN is valid, you can instantly obtain your EIN number for your company online after your LLC is formed.
Good luck.
Hello, there is a driver license option instead of a passport in the W7 form, why does it not work this way? Most places say that the new types of driver's licenses are now international. Do you have any information on the subject? Thank you.
Hello,
a passport is a requirement for the Itin application, they also state this on the conditions page of the IRS. A passport is required because they check all information such as your citizenship status, entry to the USA, exit and visas.
Thank you for the article. Do we need to go to the US consulate in Turkey for a foreign status document? Also, isn't the normal type of passport the one with the public board?
Hello,
Yes, it says that this document can be obtained from the consulate. I think the consulate will probably give you a document like a printout immediately since you are not a US citizen.
Yes, a standard Maroon passport (General Passport) is required.
Thank you for the article, I understood that those who do not have a passport cannot apply for ITIN, is this true?
You're welcome, yes, you can apply either through a paid intermediary or by yourself. In any case, a passport is required. The passport number is written on the w-7 form and the original is required when you apply yourself. The brokerage firm also wants the digital version.